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Post by geonightman on May 24, 2010 0:11:52 GMT
Don't you hate it when you can't find either a server with players or a working server to play on? Well I do. And that means I have to play in Offline mode. No biggie. But anytime I do, the bot is always Doom Faction. I really hate that. I want to go into other factions. The bots are good as they already go up the techtree automatically (usually suppression tree.) But their are two major problems. - Bots are always Doom Faction.
- The bots are programmed for up close fighting so they go right into the fray and usually die.
TL;DRZDW NEEDS BOTS!
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Post by $-$lyfox-$ on May 24, 2010 0:20:06 GMT
Eh the bots do act kinda dumb, but it's not like they gonna program the bots to go up on a tower and summon the correct unit up there, or summon anything that doesn't further reach them down the branch.
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Post by Captain Ventris on May 24, 2010 0:23:44 GMT
Yeah, uh, good luck with that. The best you could do would be to modify the Coop bots that one guy made to semi-randomly switch between the spawners.
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Post by SoulSucka on May 24, 2010 2:19:20 GMT
Do want!
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Post by Dancso on May 24, 2010 10:48:56 GMT
Do not want. Bots could only be majorly changed by editing them in the sourcecode of the port, which in skulltag's case wont happen ever. (I also bet nobody wants a zdwars branch of skulltag)
The only things I recall could affect bots would be a few flags on weapons to signify if its a weak, melee, or dangerous weapon (which might not be as useful as it sounds) and the select weapon function in acs (for which they might just change back by their own will, duh.)
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Post by Minus- on May 24, 2010 15:38:36 GMT
Well, I just think it should have all bots, not just Doom, that's all.
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Post by Captain Ventris on May 24, 2010 15:48:08 GMT
It won't have bots, because the bot scripting is worthless and ineffective. Again, the closest you could get would be the DECORATE based coop bots that one dude made.
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Post by Avernus on May 24, 2010 16:39:21 GMT
Hell even Modern Games don't have real smart bots... what the hell do you guys think Doom can handle ? Go play online... 'nuff said ! Bots can never ever be a good tool to "replace" (for the lack of any better word) human opponents.
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Post by Dancso on May 24, 2010 17:00:06 GMT
I thought Unreal Tournament had pretty smart bots, heh That still won't get smart bots any closer to doom
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Post by WhoDaMan on May 25, 2010 0:07:05 GMT
I don't know about actual Bots but I made monster type Bots of the 4 main game factions. I use them primarily to test defensive structures on my map. They summon different combinations of monsters without any regard for mana. The stronger monsters less commonly then the weaker ones (bosses are very rare). The monster players have 50 thousand health and unfortunately the enemy monsters can infight, but they work well for testing and are pretty fun when your bored.
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Post by SoulSucka on May 25, 2010 2:05:24 GMT
Care to share those with us?
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Post by WhoDaMan on May 25, 2010 3:22:44 GMT
I can't until Friday. I have no internet on my computer until then. Just my phone. There not hard to make though.
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Post by Captain Ventris on May 25, 2010 3:40:38 GMT
Make a new topic about it when you can. Maybe a couple people can work on them for fun?
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Post by NeuralStunner on May 25, 2010 4:31:40 GMT
Bots could only be majorly changed by editing them in the sourcecode of the port, which in skulltag's case wont happen ever. (I also bet nobody wants a zdwars branch of skulltag) Actually, bot AI is determined by scripts inside Skulltag_Data.pk3. Someone with enough knowledge could probably design a bot script with a more defensive nature. But don't look at me.
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Post by Alther Primus on May 25, 2010 21:11:24 GMT
Heh, Bots for ZDWars would rock! Now, bots as they are, are meh, they'll work for now, we just need some for the other classes, and some cheesy lines! I could probably try it with botinfo, if y'all are interested. (I also bet nobody wants a zdwars branch of skulltag) Fork over whatever you bet! (I can't do it, but I would love to see it!)
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